'''PTP MONTHLY MEETING''' 27 March 2003 Scribe: EugeneKeam - - - - - '''AGENDA''' 1. Multnomah Central Library access 2. Problems with opening a personal node into the public sphere - - - - - AdamShand - no overwhelming security concerns with opening node, study done legal analysis by eff, no liability issues no obligation, personally not a huge risk, next potential risk is bandwidth usage Audience - should i run a vpn to protect myself AdamShand - yes that's a good solution if you can do it LonnieWormley - other solution, shield essid, two wireless points, one private one public Audience ? what kind of solutions for high speed ap AdamShand - maps.personaltelco.net, enter your address and search for close by nodes,good way to collaborate andshare costs with a neighbor LonnieWormley - ask around during the monthly meeting AdamShand - wifi can go up to 30 miles LonnieWormley - a matter of exploring and sharing with other interested parties DatNguyen - commissioner randy leonard, city of portland AdamShand - it isn't just politics, simply financial reasons that hold back city wide usage Audience - question about bandwidth pollution, any way to use multiple yagis AdamShand - not recommended to use multiple yagis, patch antenna displayed, recommend two seperate antennas Audience - what's a yagi AdamShand - yagis focus 15 degrees, satellite antennas 3-4 degrees, omni-directional wider shaping pattern, antennas don't increase range they just shape Audience - calculate per foot loss source available on the internet NigelBallard - search for a microway calculation, they are the makers of lmr cables AdamShand - waterproof boxes with soekris boxes inside DatNguyen - pelican case with soekris inside, battery power inside too, rj45 port on exterior Audience - what is the status of your 501c3 status and what would it open up for ptp AdamShand - ability to receive donations and to apply for grants, ideal scenario is buy a box, attach to wall, leds light up connect to laptop, this is adhoc networking Audience - is this more a software or hardware problem AdamShand - both are issues, best solution now is a soekris box, a box running linux with your special configurations done, then some serious development issues are apparent, example how do i make this scale NatPowning - nodes on brooklyn, hope for more down brooklyn and connect down the strip AdamShand - hollywood nodes have been installed, 5 nodes up at one point Audience - is portland is setting a standard for wifi promotion AdamShand - i'd like to think so, seattle, bawug, nycwireless NigelBallard - a huge piece on ptp coming out in the portland business journal, come out 4th april in the telecommunications special NatPowning - we've done a great job of promotion and press coverage AdamShand - interesting because when we started we got spurned, but now garnering attention is more accessible, we are attempting to write mappingsoftware again Audience - doesn't intel have mapping software available AdamShand - intel has viewed wireless community groups as a disruptive influence, they're not sure what to think of us NigelBallard - at one time g3 good and wifi bad, now wifi is good and g2.5 is latent AdamShand - core members of ptp are sadly newcomers to portland, the longtime local support contact is very valuable to ptp NigelBallard - intel was late to the wifi market, they tend to dam the most progressive technology and they play catchup, they don't like it when they can't steer the industry, apple should be remembered as a prime mover in promoting wifi SamChurchill - apple responsible for opening up spectrum also AdamShand - large nation wide isps are almost never going to allow wifi sharing, if you have a cable modem you are limited LonnieWormley - suggests qwest business class TheMacStore - comcast doesn't allow business class in the portland area yet AdamShand - easystreet, aracnet, spiritone, speakeasy are recommended, verizon not sure of their term of service, the isp makes the call, check the ptp section wireless isp policies, cable modems not legal, atg is another isp that allows wifi sharing, tmobile refused to acknowledge ptp in only but press releases, tmobile has acknowledged they will do site surveys Audience - ocate has been offering wifi how-tos by intel AaronJohnson - the ocate stuff has been archived on their site AdamShand - thanks for coming, after presentation we'll go over meeting business and answer more questions - - - - - '''NEXT MONTHLY MEETING TO BE HELD''' Multnomah Central Library US Bank Conference Room April 2003 PM ---- CategoryMeetingNotes